Skip to main content

Grateful Dead Live at Park West Ski Resort on 1983-09-04




Bertha-> Promised Land, Friend Of The Devil, Little Red Rooster, Tennessee Jed, My Brother Esau, Althea-> Hell In A Bucket, China Cat Sunflower-> I Know You Rider Scarlet Begonias-> Fire On The Mountain, Women Are Smarter-> Drums-> Spanish Jam-> The Wheel-> The Other One-> Wharf Rat-> Around & Around-> One More Saturday Night*, E: U.S. Blues


Collection GratefulDead
Band/Artist Grateful Dead
Date September 4, 1983
Venue Park West Ski Resort
Location Park City, UT

Source Master Soundboard Cassette > Cassette > DAT > CDR


Notes

Master Soundboard Cassette > Cassette > DAT > CDR; via Scott Clugston to abgd and etree

Reviews

Reviewer: Ron2112 - - February 9, 2015
Subject: A 1983 Gem!
1983 seems to me such an uneven year for the GD. Generally, the 1st sets are a bit flat, and the 2nd sets oscillate between brilliance and duds, without much in the way of middle ground.

But this night has a bit of everything. While Set 1 does indeed contain some typical "1983-ness" in the form of "Althea" and "Little Red Rooster," the band is also cherry-picking some great 1st-set gems, including a rollicking opener with this version of "Bertha". TJ, Hell, and the CCF->IKYR duo really round this one out.

And per above, the 2nd set dial was set on "Brilliant" this night. This is one of those shows where the band seems to just be having a lot of fun, and it shows in the playing throughout the set. The only complaint -- this set is about 10 minutes shorter than the typical 1983 show. But given the goods delivered in the time that IS allotted, it's hard to be greedy here.

Soundwise, this is one of the crisper SBDs I've heard. This one just demands to be cranked at high volume. Hard to believe I'm listening to a 1st gen recording here, but there you have it. Definitely a show to hold up as an example of all the GD were still capable of in the mid-80's.
Reviewer: deadhead#1 - - November 17, 2014
Subject: what a day
thinking back 30 years it's hard to remember the details, but it was a beautiful day, set right at the base of the mountain, puffy big clouds and a little breeze but warm enough. I think Bobby wore shorts. Totally chill venue and the crowd was so relaxed, plenty of room for dancing everywhere we were just feet from the stage. Energy level was really good for the whole show and we left happy and charged up, love this chill venue and this was one of the few times the dead played park west. It was daylight for most of the show and the surrounding views are spectacular, the air is crisp clear and the sky is big.
Reviewer: Half-StepN->H - - November 5, 2012
Subject: FUnKy..Bob is on...____
Brother Esau, Hell in a bucket, Around and Around and One More "Latter" day and "Labor" day night. Bobby is letting it rip that night, and all over the place with enthusiasm...Makes this show quite memorable/enjoyable to listen to for these funky versions..
Reviewer: key-zee - - September 4, 2011
Subject: Ski Top
First thing I want to say is that the sound quality is SUPERB.Nothing crazy here just a good show.I'm also a fan of the 83'Esau.Brent sounds nice in the MiX.A very enjoyable Hell in a Bucket to start a solid 2nd set!GIVE IT A WHIRL!!!!!!!
Reviewer: dustbowltom - - October 26, 2010
Subject: Were they ever here at all?
I will take an Esau from 1983 any day !
Reviewer: Augy - - September 6, 2010
Subject: Latter Day or Labor Day?
Well, in response to the last guy I was at this show and I hate to be a snob but unless it's a very early show in which case few of us actually both attended and can remember well enough to review it. So, without a really good reason I rarely ever review shows I didn't go to! Gee, I haven't even got around to reviewing all the ones I was at with something valid to say about each of them yet; because for one thing, not all of them were terrific or even other than generic enough to do so!
This one was a fairly generic with the exception of the always special to me, "Spanish Theme". So much so, that I use it for background on my phone answering recording (in fact I changed from using Irvine from the next year to this one because it's a board) even though it kind of freaks out some folks who've never seen Grateful Dead and I know of one guy recently who had, but he had only once.
Anyway, there isn't a lot one can say about this show other than it's obvious attractiveness to hear the band it the mountains being a skier who has skied it Utah except not here. Given that it is a mountain it is fairly steep for a concert (but not to much to ski down) much in that respect like Red Rocks (although I didn't go to there this year) or the one time they played at the Boreal Ridge ski area in Ca. So given that, the clearest memory I have, (even though I know for those of you who both didn't go and are trying to decide if this is a good recording it says nothing of the sound etc. thus it isn't any help for which I apologize); but since under normal conditions one can never really see all of (unless I suppose if one at an indoor show in a small theater like perhaps the Warfield were in the balcony, which even when they played there I was still (although I hate to brag yet it is one of the few things in life I ever had consistent good luck with, so far) in the front as usual) what the drummers have at their disposal and are doing etc. that is, here I still see in color in my mind, Mickey with his brass bowls. Which also reminds me of, although I probably already mentioned it in the corresponding review (see Sante Fe (not just for my comments it's well worth it) the next weekend after this, after Red Rocks) on his birthday I talked to him about the steel drums he used to use in the late '70's which he late brought back out briefly!
Regarding the title of this review, perhaps I was mistaken, somehow in part maybe due given how in Weir's solo tune with the Midnights "Salt Lake City" it pokes fun at "Mormon" girls, I thought at the show it sounded to me like he was saying One more "Latter" Day Night, but yes I admit this was near Labor Day (although on a Sunday so not exact but I suppose close enough, which coinincidentally as I write this today is Labor Day) nevertheless; obviously whatever Weir was saying it was unusual and that's what makes shows easiest to remember if they otherwise were generic! Since it's a board of a show I went to I'm getting it in any case.
Rewriting this, I'm not mistaken indeed although, in the middle he clearly says "Labor Day" I've now confirmed that he also says either on the last or next to the last time "Latter Day" and at the beginning it's still hard to tell which one exactly he is saying!

Augy,
San Diego
Reviewer: John Bouffard - - July 10, 2010
Subject: Posting to
be able to come back to listen at a later date. Listening to Iowa 82 right now and don't want to break it up.
Reviewer: BIG_R - - April 24, 2010
Subject: 9-4-83
I'm going to listen to this tonight and then finish my review. Right now I just want to respond to bigboy peete who criticizes someone for giving YMSB a five star rating and the Grateful Dead a three. I think anyone reasonable realizes that you rate bands against their own body of work. Rating a show of another band against the Dead is like comparing apples and oranges. If we did that most of the other bands we like would have a bunch of one star ratings.

Update:

I listened to this last night and was dazed and amazed. Excellent show and great sound quality. I give a lot of shows a four star rating and a lot of three star ratings too. Usualy I save five stars for my personal favorite years ('73,'74,'77,'78,'89,'90) but I'll be listening to this smokin' hot show over and over!
Reviewer: jjg4762 - - April 6, 2009
Subject: very good day indeed
this was a great time to be on tour. the shows were hot the music very good in those days. just look at the rest of the tour. night after night they ripped. thing i remember was the weather was very nice on this tour. from ventura to santa fe a few rain drops here and there but nothing like the shows earlier this summer. I miss the good old days. or as wavy gravy use to say....... these are the good old days. Had to add to my review from awhile back. just read where the guy mentioned guy walking around lemon heads dosed I remember that TODAY I must say it just came back to me. thank you. senior moment i geuss
Reviewer: Loaf Loofler - - September 4, 2008
Subject: Funky
Man, I just broke my funk-o-meter listening to this badd ass shit!
I saw the preceding shows in Portland and Eugene, damn near broke my neck in the midst of dancin' like a fool.
It took me years to come back to seeing how hot much of '83 was, as I was concerned for Garcia's health at the time, but the band is rockin'.
Reviewer: Mind Wondrin - - May 9, 2008
Subject: Might as Well...
...give this one 5 impregnated stars.
This has long been one of my favorite tapes and for fun factor the show is in my top 5 as well. A beautiful end-of-summer day. Park City was MUCH smaller back then (didn't stretch all the way to the interstate) and I don't know if the show wasn't promoted well or what down in SLC, but this would be the LAST time I was at a show and only a couple thousand people came! Nobody was smushing in and you could meander about easily (just 4 years later I would tell this now hard-to-believe story many times). My slides of this day show a cool Utah Dead banner hanging and a DEADicated audience. There were people who owned condos behind and to the side of the stage who were privy to a different view as they hung out on balconies. (The base of the ski area, now called "The Canyons" has been entirely remodeled and shifted over since then).

I think the band was really flowing that day, start to finish, with a particular lilt permeating the music. They played on a smallish stage that wasn't set very high and I never saw an atmosphere this relaxed again. This is also my ideal setlist - all my '81-'86 faves are here. Check Brent carrying a killer China; ending 1st set with Rider and then coming back for Scarlet was immense after an intermission that resembled a group picnic with a guy walking around passing out dosed Lemonheads. Everybody suddenly turned around and looked up at one point (as the band looked up, too), to see a guy spiraling down in a parachute with smoke trailing from packs on his heels. It fit the music perfectly and I guess he got a free show - not like you couldn't hike in from the top of the runs if you really wanted to that day, but the ticket at the window was only twelve bucks. There were a bunch of other weird events (but it's possible I was the only witness to them).

The parking lot scene afterwards, into the evening and later, raged and was the first one where I saw increased open vending (there was almost zero security at this show - this was a very mellow time under the radar in Reagan's America), t-shirts, bumper stickers, etc.; seems like this was the only show I went to where 50% of the crowd was trying to fund their next stop. Seemed like things were about to blow up (and they were) so I loaded up on and traded out items which I still have in the collection. We were blasting Sandinista on the tailgate and this upset a few hardcore heads wandering by, hehe. This would be the last show where I didn't mail order for tix as that was just getting going. The caravan on I-80 east to the Red Rocks show had plenty of odd synchronous events. Unfortunately, the group I was with have all passed on at this point, but that's the way it goes sometimes I guess. The sounds of that day live on and I cherish them dearly.
Reviewer: srtg83 - - March 18, 2008
Subject: Wharf Rat
The back end of the second set has been in regular rotation for me for the past twenty years. The full band Spanish Jam to the exceptional outro Wharf Rat jam this show sparkles. In fact the jam out of Wharf Rat is so hot and Weir does not cut it off, that Bobby almost loses it at the begining of Around and Around (you can hear him laughing out loud.) The rest of the the show is average and below average for the time period. Chech out the Spanish Jam and the Wharf Rat.
Reviewer: smi2les - - March 28, 2007
Subject: this space is getting hot.......
20 bucks for the ride, Healy was sober, Jerry brought the sun out that day. Parkwest west young.
Reviewer: cush212 - - December 9, 2006
Subject: one very slight correction...
...It was a sunday show. I know that for a fact because I lived in Park City at the time, worked sunday brunches and had a hell of a time getting the day off! Not going to give a critical review because I have not heard it recently, but the shortest commute for a show (until 87) that I've ever done. That's a 5 star in itself. Have an 8x12 photo from it on my wall right in front of me.
Reviewer: yipyaw - - December 3, 2006
Subject: pleasant day
This was a gorgeous Labor Day in front of the lodge at what is now called The Canyons. The band faced the slopes and the crowd danced at the bottom of the run. This was sparsely attended, perhaps the smallest crowd I'd seen (even Santa Fe drew a larger crowd). I danced with plenty of room maybe twenty yards from the band. And like the man said, even a weak show in '83 was a good show. The energy was very chill, and it was still daylight during US Blues, so it was kind of a mellow picnic in the grass kind of atmosphere. They had some sound problems; part of the drum jam went on without PA sound, but is seems the SBD hides it pretty well, and the audience was so small we could hear the drums just fine without amplification. Honesty, I wouldn't have streamed this show except that I stumbled upon it and I was curious. It was the only Saturday Night I'd heard on a Monday, I'll give it that. The sunset drive heading toward Wyoming while cranking Exile on Mainstreet and the cliffs like skeletons spying on our 80 mph scene stands out as much as the show in my memory. Fun day, so let's not get pissy about it.
Reviewer: early 80's meltdown - - February 18, 2006
Subject: Chinacat speed baller....
A China>Rider to close 1st is a huge fav.
Then a Scarlet>Fire to open 2nd set.
Two big phatty's back to back.

1983 seemed to be a good year in transitions.

crisp sbd.
************************************************
No doubt I'll be honest its hard for me to give them marks under a 4 unless your talking about sound qual. or if the show is a sick blow out vs. a little more moderate show. Even a kind of weak show in years between 74-85 is nothin less then top notch musicans playin good music on any given night. That would still warrant a 3 rating. Rate some of these acts that toured over the years and sit and listen to recordings with a fine tooth comb like we do with the Dead and you would find a lot of 0-2's.
That being said I've been getting some killer Janes Addiction shows from the 87-91 tours and those are pretty kick ass.
ps. Dave Navaro was a big Dead Head from what I read. Infact Perry Farell did that Ripple remake on that Deadicted cd which was kind of cool.
Reviewer: bigboypeete - - June 28, 2005
Subject: ya what the fuck
how can u give yonder mountain a 5 and the dead a 3 give me a fuckin break, the dead shiot on anything yonder mountain did
Reviewer: bigboypeete - - June 28, 2005
Subject: ya what the fuck
how can u give yonder mountain a 5 and the dead a 3 give me a fuckin break, the dead shiot on anything yonder mountain did
Reviewer: gemsing777 - - April 17, 2005
Subject: vintage '83
You know the show rocks when they open the 1st set with Bertha into Promised Land and close it with a China>Rider. Brother Esau is elastic and groovy. 5 stars especially because that Keyser guy gave it 3 and he rated a 2003 show Yonder Mountain String Band show a 5 star. C'mon now...
Reviewer: hoosker - - September 7, 2004
Subject: I remember this one
What a fun show. This is an unbelievably clear copy of this show. I reccommend it highly. Loved the song selection. There have been many times we in Utah felt neglected by the Dead but this wasn't one of them... really a great run. In fact, we were spurred on to go to the shows that followed at Redrock and certainly had our minds blown over there too. Thanks for the memories.
Reviewer: Ron Keyser - - July 14, 2004
Subject: Flaw
Only flaw I could find in the recording is a skip in Althea (Disc 1 track 7) @ approx. 5:33
At times the speed of the recordings seems fast and other times I think I'm just imagining it... Hard to tell really. Very crisp and clean board.
Reviewer: Crazy Fingers - - July 1, 2004
Subject: Higher on the mountain
This is one of those instances where the tape sounds better than the show did. Although it was a pleasant afternoon, the sound at the show was a little thin, probably because of the altitude. But this SBD sounds amazing! Scarlet-Fire is extremely hot, the Drums and Space are varied and interesting, and the Spanish Jam is lengthy and well developed, with all band members contributing variations on the theme. It's really the only full-band Spanish Jam I know of, although there are probably others out there. The Other One also deserves mention; it's very tight, with a nice intro from Phil. Things kind of peter out after Wharf Rat, so it's not one of those shows that blows you away from start to finish. But it's definitely worth downloading.

As for the live experience, again, it was an afternoon show (unlike the 1987 Park West show, which was at night). The terrain made it difficult for any serious dancing; it is a ski slope after all. Some time during the first set this guy parachuted into the show, landing up-hill from the soundboard. I never figured out what that was all about; probably some kind of promotion, as he had a smoke jet attached to his back-pack. During Women Are Smarter they had to replace Bobby's monitor mid-song. That may explain why they went into Drums right after. Some clouds gathered during space, but they broke right as The Wheel started, bathing the band in bright rays of sun. The effect was quite dramatic and I remember thinking "If only Candace could duplicate that." All in all an enjoyable, but not intense, live concert experience. The intensity happened a few days later at the Rocks.
Stream Only
Stream playlist
( VBR )
In Collection
Grateful Dead
In Collection
Live Music Archive
Uploaded by
Jonathan Aizen
on 6/22/2004
Views
16,366
Favorites
25
Reviews
22
PEOPLE ALSO FOUND
Grateful Dead
by Grateful Dead
4,811
0
0
Source: Audience Partial
Grateful Dead
by Grateful Dead
25,692
0
1
( 1 reviews )
Source: Audience: AMS ST-250
Grateful Dead
by Grateful Dead
7,672
0
4
( 4 reviews )
Source: Audience Recording
Grateful Dead
by Grateful Dead
5,234
0
3
( 3 reviews )
Source: Audience: Schoeps mk4's
Grateful Dead
by Grateful Dead
5,505
0
3
( 3 reviews )
Source: AUD(likely sennheiser)>?>CDR>WAV>SHN.SHN encoding via C.Ladner.
Grateful Dead
by Grateful Dead
12,059
0
3
( 3 reviews )
Source: Audience: Sennheiser 421's
Grateful Dead
by Grateful Dead
4,854
0
3
( 3 reviews )
Source: 2 Beyer M160 FOB> Sony TCD5M Master Cassette>shn
Grateful Dead
by Grateful Dead
4,392
0
1
( 1 reviews )
Source: Audience: Schoeps MK21's (set 1 only)
Grateful Dead
by Grateful Dead
6,969
0
1
( 1 reviews )
Source: Audience Recording: Nak CM700's
Grateful Dead
by Grateful Dead
5,374
0
3
( 3 reviews )